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New Style MVP room
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ok fine. but don't make it something super expensive for MvPs like Eddga. 5mil for 1 eddga? takes me a while just to farm that much even when i still had my max chars. you guys might not think that 5m is all that hard to get but how about you guys try being new to this server again not knowing where to go or what to do because there are some things different from other servers. and that also including you guys not having your precious donates or cards. 5m would take a while to get without all those boosts you guys have. for the simple MvPs like Drake and Eddga and Moonlight Flower why not a simple 300k - 700k? 5m for ones like LoD or Doppels and prolly 10m for Incantation Samurai and Baphomet. seems more reasonable if your gonna have a contradiction that you suggested(refering to pass allowing 1 free MvP per 10-20min and a voucher negating the wait AND the effect of the pass)
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wolfsdhorm wrote:
ok fine. but don't make it something super expensive for MvPs like Eddga. 5mil for 1 eddga?


If you read all bubbas post, you would know the answer to that. Payment is based of usefulness of card monster drops. Eddga is useless so it will probably be a free spawn i am guessing. And so will all the current mvp room mvp's i am hoping.

wolfsdhorm wrote:
takes me a while just to farm that much even when i still had my max chars. you guys might not think that 5m is all that hard to get but how about you guys try being new to this server again not knowing where to go or what to do because there are some things different from other servers. and that also including you guys not having your precious donates or cards.


This is what really, really annoys me. People come to the server and expect to be god himself straight away. We all have worked VERY hard for what we have wolf, especially cards. If you want to get somewhere, play the game for alot longer. Don't complain about our cards. Only time will get you there. It would be unfair for all of us if we had worked so hard for cards and all of a sudden everyone could get things so easily.
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i don't expect to be god. but i say that the price shouldn't be on the effect of the cards. it's hard enough as it is just to get an MvP card in the 1st place. Making it harder to get the card by making the price 5-10m will only aggrivate those that almost never get a card even from a monster that drops it easily
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wolfsdhorm wrote:
i don't expect to be god. but i say that the price shouldn't be on the effect of the cards. it's hard enough as it is just to get an MvP card in the 1st place. Making it harder to get the card by making the price 5-10m will only aggrivate those that almost never get a card even from a monster that drops it easily


I don't get it, you said you played iRO or whichever years ago (From another post) which I can understand would be A Lot more harder to farm zeny than it would be here. Why make such a hassle on farming zeny? RMS = Friend, learn to rely on it for valuable*? items worth selling.

And for some odd reason, I feel like I might need to further explain this post in the future.

Last note - MVP cards were not meant to be easy to find, FYI.
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Liked your last note jay. If people want easier MVP cards, Rey shouldn't have joined a server with card drop rates such as ours
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>_> please note: there are some people(BIG i.e. me) who don't understand how to read the rates. confuses the hell out of me. further more this shall be my last post on this topic because no matter what i say i seem to be beaten in all corners...even my point about the voucher and pass being pointless if the pass gives one free MvP and you have to wait 10-20 minutes just to summon an mvp unless you use the voucher there-for making the pass be totally useless. if the pass allows free MvPs then it should still allow free MvPs even IF you have used a voucher to negate the wait. as i have said already, this shall be my last post on this subject. please continue with your lives on this thread.
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wolfsdhorm wrote:
>_> please note: there are some people(BIG i.e. me) who don't understand how to read the rates. confuses the hell out of me. further more this shall be my last post on this topic because no matter what i say i seem to be beaten in all corners...even my point about the voucher and pass being pointless if the pass gives one free MvP and you have to wait 10-20 minutes just to summon an mvp unless you use the voucher there-for making the pass be totally useless. if the pass allows free MvPs then it should still allow free MvPs even IF you have used a voucher to negate the wait. as i have said already, this shall be my last post on this subject. please continue with your lives on this thread.


So people can summon Garm, SK, Tao or whichever MVP's that were not chosen out - Without ANY penalties? Big no no in Economy class.. (Regarding use of Vouchers with MVP Pass).
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sorry for my extra post past my "last post on this thread"

NightShade...
1: i just don't see the point in having a Pass that allows a free MvP if you still have to pay just to negate the time wait. in a previous post i quit suggesting putting in ALL MvPs...meaning no Tao or Garm if people do not wish to see them in the MvP room.

2: i wouldn't know about economy right now. im only a soph in high school so please do not talk to me about that stuff for another 2 years.

3: this WILL be my last post so please do not quote me or talk to me via this post. if you have anything to say pleas mail me


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wolfsdhorm wrote:
>_> please note: there are some people(BIG i.e. me) who don't understand how to read the rates. confuses the hell out of me. further more this shall be my last post on this topic because no matter what i say i seem to be beaten in all corners...even my point about the voucher and pass being pointless if the pass gives one free MvP and you have to wait 10-20 minutes just to summon an mvp unless you use the voucher there-for making the pass be totally useless. if the pass allows free MvPs then it should still allow free MvPs even IF you have used a voucher to negate the wait. as i have said already, this shall be my last post on this subject. please continue with your lives on this thread.



Let me explain this again.... The MVP arena pass is not meant to be abused, hence the wait times on MVP's, which will be at 15mins in between spawns. Much like in the RO world their is a wait time before you can kill a MVP again, this is the same principle.

Now the reason for the pass being negated by the use of vouchers is because 1 person can hog the MVP room all day with vouchers and with only 10 rooms being available its fair to other players that you should use zeny to summon and bypass the wait time. Its called being penalized in some way shape or form.


Prices will be as followed for current MVP room MVP's 250k to summon.

The others will be much higher, once second round of voting is complete. Which will conclude in 5 more days, so get your votes in no votes means more of a chance that MVP will be in.
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wolfsdhorm wrote:
sorry for my extra post past my "last post on this thread"

NightShade...
1: i just don't see the point in having a Pass that allows a free MvP if you still have to pay just to negate the time wait. in a previous post i quit suggesting putting in ALL MvPs...meaning no Tao or Garm if people do not wish to see them in the MvP room.

2: i wouldn't know about economy right now. im only a soph in high school so please do not talk to me about that stuff for another 2 years.

3: this WILL be my last post so please do not quote me or talk to me via this post. if you have anything to say pleas mail me


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And yes, I will quote you. Like an evil War Monger that I be, Economy isn't something you Just learn in school, lol.

You learn Economy from everyday life and put forth what you've learned from what you see. Watch CNN or any news channel (Real news, not some stupid "Britney*? Spears or w/e is flashing people.. AGAIN!", I feel bad having to explain this. Sad
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As for the rest of you: Thank you for your time, patience, and continued effort towards your suggestion. In the face of any question or adversity, you must be prepared. There will be a time in the near future where my thoughts and criticisms will land on this suggestion. I trust that you will be prepared.
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Skye wrote:
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@wolfsdhorm: If you have an issue with this, please message me. You are still free to post under the sole condition that it is a productive comment that you are making. If you are at all unsure what I classify as productive for this thread, or in general, please message me.

As for the rest of you: Thank you for your time, patience, and continued effort towards your suggestion. In the face of any question or adversity, you must be prepared. There will be a time in the near future where my thoughts and criticisms will land on this suggestion. I trust that you will be prepared.



You can always bring your questions now, keeps the juices flowing =). Plus it would help the thread and idea along.
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to be honest i am lazy and i dont know if this has been stated ... and if so i dont mind being corrected or anythin about it ... but if at all possible i would like to suggest that the mvps in each room should spawn according to how many players are in the room so lets say i am the only one in the mvp room (this is mainly aimed to the lower lvl mvp rooms) instead of having to be extra cautious about my surroundings and possibly getting attaked by a different mvp from behind there should only be 1 (randomly spawned) mvp now ... if there was a party of 5 players then instead of them being able to breeze though 1 or 2 mabey 3 mvps at a time they have 5 spawned and should say i be alone in the mvp room and someone enters the same room ... instead of just 1 spawn there would be 2

anyone agree/dissagree?
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yoh wrote:
to be honest i am lazy and i dont know if this has been stated ... and if so i dont mind being corrected or anythin about it ... but if at all possible i would like to suggest that the mvps in each room should spawn according to how many players are in the room so lets say i am the only one in the mvp room (this is mainly aimed to the lower lvl mvp rooms) instead of having to be extra cautious about my surroundings and possibly getting attaked by a different mvp from behind there should only be 1 (randomly spawned) mvp now ... if there was a party of 5 players then instead of them being able to breeze though 1 or 2 mabey 3 mvps at a time they have 5 spawned and should say i be alone in the mvp room and someone enters the same room ... instead of just 1 spawn there would be 2

anyone agree/dissagree?


If I read your idea correctly, I already know how I can abuse that system. Put more effort into your idea, and try to stay along the lines of the already Mvp room in this discussion, not the old Mvp room.
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Just put a max spawn cap on some rooms if duel clienting +++ is what your talking about jay? I do like bubbas idea though. The more it gets discussed the more it is coming together.
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