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Do you feel that the Ruwatch blindfold is OP?
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DiamondTen wrote:
Most People using Ruwach just point sight out Sinx or Stalker, I personal think about Ruwach, when you Ruwach always After-Cast Delay. The point sight out is get the point attack if Ruwach change Sight, so would be easier the reason is : Sight don't have After-Cast Delay Problem.


What the hell does this mean? o.o
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no comment! =D

PS. GTB= get use to it.. Its original.
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jonishan wrote:

I'm supporting this because the assassin's in my guild cannot even play because the lord knights use ruwach the sin flinches out of cloak and they get bowling bashed or spear'd to death and can't even get away or fight back.


Now we know Son, now we know the real reason. Wink

And scroll up for my solution to that.


P.S.Pneuma supposedly only on Acolyte class, so yes. Ban the Pneuma Accessory! For 5-6 Decent LK who get into the emp room, will get whoever defending the emperium room to be, useless.
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No my dear, I'm not on the same page with you.

-Imagine Assasin [Since if you were talking about stalker, FYI: Chase Walk can't be ruwatch-ed] with PD and GTB, or Flee and GTB. And can't be ruwatch easily, they hide switch to katar and spam Grimtooth to whoever walking towards them. Boom! [Might be you can use this too on WoE rules map, speed potion, Sleipnir, Moonlight Head, run as fast as you can, hide Grimtooth with edp before they knew what hit them ;D]-

I don't want to change it because, the horong is available, so why not ruwatch?

If you were asking if anyone use it, my lovely answer would be, because the one who use Horong Accessory<Black Blindfold, that doesn't mean that the item it self is overpowered or no one use it.

For the question that I asked, such LK,Champ, etc. That's only a comparison on How the other class has their own advantage, and fragility too. I suppose.

Btw, if you were playing thief class and found out that you can't handle being ruwatch-ed or sighted, I suggest you to change to another job class. :B


see now we can argue, cause you instead of taking what i said have you finally come out into the open. Stalkers moves slower than sins in cloak when they're in chasewalk thus why they can't be revealed but that's not gonna stop Meteor assault or magnum break and yes u can hide equip a katar and spam grims tooth hey very valid point.

and having ruwach on a headgear cause you can get Sight on a accessory already it a good argument but ya know there was a reason why horong is sight and not ruwatch. what if it was ruwach on the horong card? would people have suggested sight on a headgear instead? ask the quesion would the same apply

WOULD U HAVE ARGUED TO PUT SIGHT ON A HEADGEAR IF HORONG GAVE RUWACH! Thats the whole reason you guys wanted ruwach cause sights already on a card. i'm tellin you this NO because ruwach goes a little bit further than the normal standard to reveal someone. that is the main reason why ruwach was chosen

and you know that probably why u see more LK's and Alchy's and snipers in WoE than anything else because they decided i hate being revealed and losing so i'm going to switch so i can win


Sight was put on Horong instead of Ruwach because the sky was blue and Gravity saw a bush of yellow tulips that day.

Also, lrn2speakcoherently, I don't understand half you say.
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see now we can argue, cause you instead of taking what i said have you finally come out into the open. Stalkers moves slower than sins in cloak when they're in chasewalk thus why they can't be revealed but that's not gonna stop Meteor assault or magnum break and yes u can hide equip a katar and spam grims tooth hey very valid point.

and having ruwach on a headgear cause you can get Sight on a accessory already it a good argument but ya know there was a reason why horong is sight and not ruwatch. what if it was ruwach on the horong card? would people have suggested sight on a headgear instead? ask the quesion would the same apply

WOULD U HAVE ARGUED TO PUT SIGHT ON A HEADGEAR IF HORONG GAVE RUWACH! Thats the whole reason you guys wanted ruwach cause sights already on a card. i'm tellin you this NO because ruwach goes a little bit further than the normal standard to reveal someone. that is the main reason why ruwach was chosen

and you know that probably why u see more LK's and Alchy's and snipers in WoE than anything else because they decided i hate being revealed and losing so i'm going to switch so i can win


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Btw, if you were playing thief class and found out that you can't handle being ruwatch-ed or sighted, I suggest you to change to another job class. :B


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see now we can argue, cause you instead of taking what i said have you finally come out into the open. Stalkers moves slower than sins in cloak when they're in chasewalk thus why they can't be revealed but that's not gonna stop Meteor assault or magnum break and yes u can hide equip a katar and spam grims tooth hey very valid point.

and having ruwach on a headgear cause you can get Sight on a accessory already it a good argument but ya know there was a reason why horong is sight and not ruwatch. what if it was ruwach on the horong card? would people have suggested sight on a headgear instead? ask the quesion would the same apply

WOULD U HAVE ARGUED TO PUT SIGHT ON A HEADGEAR IF HORONG GAVE RUWACH! Thats the whole reason you guys wanted ruwach cause sights already on a card. i'm tellin you this NO because ruwach goes a little bit further than the normal standard to reveal someone. that is the main reason why ruwach was chosen

and you know that probably why u see more LK's and Alchy's and snipers in WoE than anything else because they decided i hate being revealed and losing so i'm going to switch so i can win


gomEn wrote:

Btw, if you were playing thief class and found out that you can't handle being ruwatch-ed or sighted, I suggest you to change to another job class. :B


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Agreed. o.o and btw GO ADAM ^_^. Sadly I read this whole thing and was like WTF? O_O! Never heard of anyone having a problem with BlackBinder (Ruwatch) My advice is to listen to them cause there right on this one. Change class or Adapt. Not hard to do either O_o
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They didn't realize that Ruwach would break the classes because they knew it wouldn't.

Assassin Cross card doesn't make it impossible to fight anyone who has it,
Lord Knight does not stop a man from dying.

These are all just things for the same cause: To prolong life.

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We do not complain.

I've heard enough of this. I've had better results while trying to coerce a rock to be an ice-cream cone.
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I, personally, do not feel we should change the item. However, if it is decided that the majority would like the skill switched from Ruwach to Sight, I propose those who have the blindfold also gain the ability to use Sightrasher.

And if that was the case, which would you prefer? 100+20*Skill Lvl% MATK damage plus push back per fireball (Sightrasher) or MATK*1.45 (Ruwach)?
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GlitchyVirus wrote:



Whatever you say.

Move to another town and stop QQing.


And so the conversation breaks down we are left with this

of course I'm QQing but you know you people had to QQ about getting a Headgear that gives them ruwach, and the people who probably opposed it left or you told them quote on quote "adapt". so how do you adapt to ruwach/sight as a sinX or a rogue??? cause by adapt if you mean change to a different class then your just saying switch, switch, or leave
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Somewhereoutthere wrote:
GlitchyVirus wrote:



Whatever you say.

Move to another town and stop QQing.


And so the conversation breaks down we are left with this

of course I'm QQing but you know you people had to QQ about getting a Headgear that gives them ruwach, and the people who probably opposed it left or you told them quote on quote "adapt". so how do you adapt to ruwach/sight as a sinX or a rogue??? cause by adapt if you mean change to a different class then your just saying switch, switch, or leave


I thought the Headgear came when luzz put a bunch of different New headgear O_o didnt know it was voted or chosen and dude like seriously your flippin out over a headgear that does Ruwatch O_o most people complain about cards and such but you complain about Ruwatch? there are easy ways around it. Just saying
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ppls "QQed" about gtb for years...know whats still here unchanged?
thats right give up
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tehdarke wrote:
I thought the Headgear came when luzz put a bunch of different New headgear O_o didnt know it was voted or chosen


To my knowledge it was simply added in with new headgears. I do not think this donate was voted in by players. I could be wrong though.
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I thought the Headgear came when luzz put a bunch of different New headgear O_o didnt know it was voted or chosen


To my knowledge it was simply added in with new headgears. I do not think this donate was voted in by players. I could be wrong though.


I think the same. o.o but either way I think this whole Ruwatch thing has been blown out of proportion O_O!

And to stay on topic im against gettin rid of or changing the head gear. Its usefull on lk, but if I didnt have it id prob just use my stalker LOL! easy to get people out of hiding and such Very Happy!
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I thought the Headgear came when luzz put a bunch of different New headgear O_o didnt know it was voted or chosen


To my knowledge it was simply added in with new headgears. I do not think this donate was voted in by players. I could be wrong though.


This would be correct. No one voted it in. It was merely chosen by chance.
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So if Ruwach is broken then what about Sprinkle Sand?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

Edit:
Also Stalkers Raid.......

Also if being told "Switch or leave" upsets you, try playing a mage class Very Happy
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